Tuesday, March 8, 2011

Response to a Question of Anti-Christ

According to Strong's Exhausting Concordance the word translated "antichrist" means "opponent of the Messiah." According to today's definition it can mean "against",  "opposite of",  or "in place of".

 

That would seem to indicate anti-christ is one who denies Christ has come and claim to be the Christ.

 

Also according to Strong's concordance John's first and second letters are the only place the term appears. For the first sixty or so years apparently Christians were not faced with such Spirits and until late in the first century were unaware the term. Apparently the spirits were taking one last shot before they became impotent as they are today.

 

When people resist the truth about God, will not receive the truth about God and act upon it God will send a strong delusion upon them that they may believe a lie and be lost. Delusions will be sent only to people who will not receive truth;  who do not love truth.  Those who are satisfied with the truth of the word of God can always learn enough of it to be saved by it. In the most simple terms God will ensure one finds what one loves. It is most important that we love truth.

 

By your definition of anti-Christ Paul was anti-christ until he was taught truth. So either the condition known as anti-christ can be corrected or just being a denier of Christ does ot make one anti-Christ. Paul apparently loved truth but had not been exposed to it in such a way he could understand it. As an apostle he used the scriptures to prove to people the Christ had to come and die and Jesus was the Christ. I wonder how such an educated man could not have understood the scriptures. If an educated individual could not understand the scriptures there must have been no hope of the uneducated understanding.

 

During New Testament times spirits were active. Possibly anti-christ was one of those spirits claiming to be Christ.. Anti-Christ was a spiritual power a wicked spirit.  That would suggest anti-christ does not exist today in our world.

 

As far as understanding plain English: a respeito de minha compreensão do inglês liso: como é claramente você que pensa?

 

I believe you know my thoughts on the United States being a Christian nation. The word Christian means follower of Christ. As with other church words the term has become vague and meaningless. Unless one is a follower of Christ one is not a Christian. The example we have in the New Testament in Acts the group Jesus established on Pentecost we call the body of Christ was made up of people who had been immersed for the remission of their sins. They were added to the group by God.  Therefore, if one has not been immersed for the remission of their sins they are not in the body of Christ, they are not following Christ therefore they are not Christian. Acknowleding Christ has come does not make one a follower. This country does not now nor has it ever followed Christ.

 

 

Monday, March 7, 2011

Do We Deserve Better?

On the subject of faith in Hebrews chapter 11 we have people who accomplished great things for God: Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Sarah,   Joseph, Rahab, Gideon, Barak, Samson, Jephthah, David, Samuel, and all the prophets. By faith these people overthrew kingdoms, ruled with justice, and received what God had promised them. They shut the mouths of lions, quenched the flames of fire, and escaped death by the edge of the sword. Their weakness was turned to strength. They became strong in battle and put whole armies to flight.

And we have others who although they trusted God they were tortured, preferring to die rather than turn from God and be free. They placed their hope in the resurrection to a better life. Some were mocked, and their backs were cut open with whips. Others were chained in dungeons. Some died by stoning, and some were sawed in half; others were killed with the sword. Some went about in skins of sheep and goats, hungry and oppressed and mistreated. They were too good for this world. They wandered over deserts and mountains, hiding in caves and holes in the ground.

All of these people we have mentioned received God's approval because of their faith.

Listen to our prayers. Why do we suppose God will protect us from adversity and persecution?

Thursday, March 3, 2011

THE inerrant word of God

What is meant when we say we have the "the inerrant Word of God?"  A new translation is being touted.

 

http://www.upi.com/Odd_News/2011/03/02/New-Bible-nixes-booty-virgin/UPI-36421299100985/

 

I'm not sure why they mention replacing "booty" (apparently in some circles it results in jokes) since it is used only 3 times in the KJV and is translated "spoil" in others. People are upset with the word "virgin" being replaced with "young woman."  Only time will tell if the version catches on but when people read this version and hear about the "inerrant Word of God" do they have it?

 

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Obituaries would be a lot more interesting if they told you how the person died.

Monday, February 28, 2011

Questions About Public Prayers

Listen to our public prayers. Now consider the results? James tells us we can ask wrongly: James 4:3 "You ask and do not receive, because you ask wrongly, to spend it on your passions."  He also tells us we must ask with full confidence and expectation of receiving: James 1:6-7 "… let him ask in faith, with no doubting, for the one who doubts is like a wave of the sea that is driven and tossed by the wind. For that person must not suppose that he will receive anything from the Lord;" And James tells us to meet trials head-on: James 1:2-4 "Count it all joy, my brothers, when you meet trials of various kinds, for you know that the testing of your faith produces steadfastness. And let steadfastness have its full effect, that you may be perfect and complete, lacking in nothing.

 

How many of the requests in our public prayers are simply for our happiness? How many of those requests do you find in the Bible?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Boldness

Christians in the first Century prayed for boldness: Acts 4:29-31 …look upon their threats and grant to your servants to continue to speak your word with all boldness, while you stretch out your hand to heal, and signs and wonders are performed through the name of your holy servant Jesus."  Today, Christians pray for safety and freedom. We pray to avoid persecution.

 

Stephen could have remained silent and lived to preach another day. He did not. Luke tells us "…there arose on that day a great persecution against the church in Jerusalem, and they were all scattered throughout the regions of Judea and Samaria, except the apostles. Do you suppose Stephen's preaching caused that?

 

There is no bible support for Christians to ask God for help to avoid persecution: to have things easy. There are bible examples of God helping Christians face persecution and death. Luke tells us: "…he, (Stephen) full of the Holy Spirit, gazed into heaven and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing at the right hand of God. And he said, "Behold, I see the heavens opened, and the Son of Man standing at the right hand of God."  "as they were stoning Stephen, he called out, 'Lord Jesus, receive my spirit.' And falling to his knees he cried out with a loud voice, 'Lord, do not hold this sin against them.' And when he had said this, he fell asleep."

 

Christians must take the focus of their prayers from themselves to being the Body of Christ on earth and being about the Father's business at whatever the risk.  

 

Paul was focused on God when he told the church in Ephesus: "In all circumstances take up the shield of faith, with which you can extinguish all the flaming darts of the evil one; and take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God, praying at all times in the Spirit, with all prayer and supplication. To that end keep alert with all perseverance, making supplication for all the saints, and also for me, that words may be given to me in opening my mouth boldly to proclaim the mystery of the gospel, for which I am an ambassador in chains, that I may declare it boldly, as I ought to speak.

 

When Paul wrote this to the church in Rome: "I hope to see you in passing as I go to Spain, and to be helped on my journey there by you, once I have enjoyed your

company for a while. At present, however, I am going to Jerusalem bringing aid to the saints." Notice he did not ask for them to pray for his safety while he traveled. 

 

We live in a world regulated by natural law. This suggests a certain amount of suffering is inevitable. We benefit from the laws of nature and we suffer the consequences when they are violated. Suppose a car crashes and people are killed---is God to be blamed because a driver was careless or perhaps a weather factor was not properly considered?

Imagine a world where God suspended the laws of nature whenever someone "prays."

Praying to avoid suffering is against God's plan.

 

Sunday, February 27, 2011

Benefits of Suffering

We live in a world regulated by natural law. This would suggest a certain amount of suffering is inevitable. If, for example, the law of gravity behaves consistently, a building may fall on someone, killing or injuring him. Jesus mentioned an incident of the collapse of the tower at Siloam and the deaths of eighteen men, yet noted that those me were no greater sinners than their peers.

We benefit from the laws of nature and we suffer the consequences when they are violated. Suppose a plane crashes and scores of people are killed---is God to be blamed because an engineer, mechanic, navigator, or pilot overlooked or ignored an aeronautical principle or perhaps a weather factor was not properly considered?

Imagine a world where God suspended the laws of nature whenever someone "prays."

Suffering and evil remind us that this world was not designed to be our eternal home. The author of Hebrews tells us we should be as strangers in this world. Jesus has prepared a better place for those who serve him and suffering helps us to long for that place.

Praying for God to help us to avoid suffering is against his plan.

Saturday, February 26, 2011

What are your reasons for believing God will answer prayers for our physical benefits?

 

John wrote that in response to a question from Pilate Jesus said: "My kingdom is not of this world. If my kingdom were of this world, my servants would have been fighting, that I might not be delivered over to the Jews. But my kingdom is not from the world." If Jesus did not fight for the safety of his followers why will he fight for your health and safety? Keep in mind one result of Jesus not fighting was children of his followers died. 

 

What sort of world would it be if God directly intervened, suspending His natural laws, each time we encounter a life-threatening situation? This would render the law system of our planet completely undependable and make life a sphere of hopeless confusion. Such a haphazard system, in fact, would argue more for atheism that it would for theism. 

 

Paul wrote in Romans 8:28  

    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 

 

Jesus said in Matthew 6:31-34  

    Do not be anxious, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?'  For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

    "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

 

Paul wrote in Philippians 4:6-7  

    … Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

 

Jesus said in Matthew 26:42

    "My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done." 

 

Why are we so hesitant to accept what happens…?

 

For some samples of prayers God will answer see:

 

http://alumcave.blogspot.com/2011/02/william-barclay-on-prayer.html

 

 

Monday, February 21, 2011

God Intervention? No.

Have you considered that when we ask God to help somone or comfort someone or touch somone's heart he will do so only through us? If we are the body of Christ what does that mean if we don't do something? I am convinced that God will not intervene except through his people. When his people ask God to comfort someone do we really believe he would not do so except for our request? What kind of a loving God is that?  The body of Christ is the hands and feet and face of Jesus. If we do not do it it will not be done. Based on the common understanding although God wants everyone to be saved but he will send them all to Hell because his people did not ask him to "touch their heart;" he will let an individual suffer because His people did not ask him to comfort does not make sense, at least to me.

Saturday, February 19, 2011

“Religion – Have It Your Way?” December 2010 GA.

 

I enjoyed your article "Religion – Have It Your Way?" December 2010 GA.

 

May I suggest people saying they can be spiritual but not religious have specific congregations or groups in mind and we are one of those groups.   

 

Is it possible that an individual can be spiritual (of or pertaining to the soul or spirit) without being religious (concerning religion (a collection of practices, based on beliefs and teachings that are highly valued or sacred))?

 

On Sunday morning our congregation assembles with most arriving just in time and with the understood goal of not exceeding an hour if at all possible we:

  • Listen to someone making announcements;
  • Sing a partial song (standing);
  • Sing a partial song (sitting);
  • Pray for everything from safe travel to and from the building to when we die "if we are found faithful" entrance into heaven; in most cases the phrase "we pray for…" is used as a substitute for specific requests;
  • Sing a partial song (standing);
  • Listen to a sermon
  • Sing a partial song (standing);
  • Do the Lord's Supper (minimal comments as to permit us to get it done as quickly and efficiently as possible);
  • Sing a partial song (standing);
  • Pray for just about the same things found in the "opening" prayer.
  • And we leave.

Can someone be spiritual without that?

 

Was Jesus religious?

 

He did not follow the traditions to the letter of the Law.

Many of the religious leaders did not like the people He hung out with

He spoke harshly to the Pharisees and other men of learning and status.

He made political matters worse as many of their followers began to follow Him and His teachings.

 

Again nice article. Again, may I suggest we are definitely religious are we spiritual? Will we be counted among the sheep or the goats?


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"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, then, is not an act, but a habit."
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Monday, February 14, 2011

Autonomy

With the many problems the church in Corinth had and the many problems the churches in Asia had neither Paul nor Jesus recommended "discipline."  I suggest we, today, would not have associated with many of those same congregations. Admonishing and pointing out error does not require separation in fact it requires association. We are supposed to be gentle with those "weak in faith."

 

In his letter to the Romans, Paul wrote: "Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand." James wrote: "There is only one lawgiver and judge, he who is able to save and to destroy. But who are you to judge your neighbor?" In each case the intended audience was people who had been immersed for the remission of their sins. I am saying we need to give the greatest leniency to other congregations as long as they are following Christ.

 

When you remember Jesus' prayer for his followers to be unified I suggest many of those causing the multiple divisions within those practicing a cappella are going to find themselves counted with the  "goats" thinking they were saved but Jesus said he didn't know them.


I do not want to get off the subject it is just the congregational autonomy practiced today is the type of autonomy as long as they do the same things I do in the same way I do them autonomy.

 

 

Thursday, February 10, 2011

Discussion Website

I was taking the day off from emails but when I received the note from the discussion website I figured you might like to take a shot at my response.

I receive emails from a discussion website. A recent email asked:


It has come to my attention that a local congregation here(Bakersfield, Ca) will no longer serve the Lord Supper during the evening worship.

Here's what they contend, they say that Acts.20:7 is reconized as the Lord's Church participating in the Lord's Supper every first day of the week.They conclude that this example LIMITS THE SCRIPTUAL OBSERVATION OF THE LORD'S SUPPER. They go on to say that there is NO DIRECT COMMAND, NO APPROVED EXAMPLE OR NO NECESSARY INFERENCE given anywhere else in the New Testament.To partake any other time than when THE WHOLE CHURCH comes together to partake, is to add to God's Word/Command's. In the evening THE WHOLE CHURCH is not partaking, just a handful of people.So there you have it, do you see it as Violation of the Scriptures or is it Reading the Letter of the Law, but missing the Spirit of the Law.

I submitted the following:We should remember congregational autonomy so if this is what they choose to do so be it. Next: According to Strong's Exhaustive Concordance of the Bible, in the New Testament in every instance the word "bread" appears it is: 740 artos bread (as raised) or a loaf: -- (shew-) bread, loaf. That means when Jesus was telling the disciples how to pray and he said "Give us this day, our daily bread" and when Luke writes the believers "came together to break bread" the same word translated "bread" was used. Why does anyone think Luke was referring to the Lord's Supper?" On Sunday when we take the smallest piece of bread we can find and drink a partially filled miniature shot glass of grape juice we are not even close to replicating the Lord's Supper we read about in the New Testament.

On the subject of the "whole church" none of us assembles with the "whole church." In our county we have at least 8 congregations and we all meet as individual congregations. Even together we do not makeup the "whole church." So we have to keep this question in perspective.

If a congregation does not meet Sunday evenings they are not "offering" the communion to anyone. If they meet on Sunday evening and decide not to "offer" the communion that is an option open to all congregations and is a congregational decision.

One response talked about the Lord's Supper being commanded. The following is my response to that one.

As a side, no place in the New Testament is anyone commanded to worship. Jesus said his followers would and Paul told us how, presenting our body, as living sacrifices. We have memorial services all the time for friends and family after they have died and no one considers that worship. God realizes worship cannot be commanded. Much like respect it has to be earned and it has to come from the heart.

On the subject of the "whole church" none of us assembles with the "whole church." In our county we have at least 8 congregations and we all meet as individual congregations. Even together we do not makeup the "whole church." So we have to keep this question in perspective. If a congregation does not meet Sunday evenings they are not "offering" the communion to anyone. If they meet on Sunday evening and decide not to "offer" the communion that is an option open to all congregations and is a congregational decision.

Wednesday, February 9, 2011

GOP Takes Latest Abortion Fight To The Tax Code

I see the anti-Abortion folks are on the move again.

http://www.npr.org/blogs/health/2011/02/09/133596340/gop-takes-latest-abortion-fight-to-the-tax-code

 

Have you considered that the manner in which the fetus is conceived determines its right to survive?

"This legislation is really about whether the role of America's government is to continue to fund a practice that takes the lives of over one million little Americans every year," said Rep. Trent Franks, R-Ariz., chairman of the Judiciary subcommittee overseeing the bill to make the Hyde amendment permanent at a hearing today.

But going after the tax code could cause all kinds of confusion, testified George Washington University law professor Sara Rosenbaum. For example, she said, the IRS would have to make technical decisions about what types of abortions can and can't be covered so it can decide what kind of insurance is eligible for tax deductions and credits.

"We're going to need the Internal Revenue Service to define a rape; potentially a forcible rape, incest; potentially incest involving minors; as opposed to incest not involving minors; physical conditions endangering life, and physical conditions that don't endanger life," she said.

If abortion is wrong does it matter how the fetus was conceived? Is the fetus any less human if it was conceived as a result of incest or rape, forcible or not? Do you think pro-lifers know why they are against abortion. It appears pro-life people don't want abortions to be done unless they deem it necessary.  

HPV is a sexually transmitted disease. It is believed to cause cervical cancer. Some Christian Conservatives in our government have resisted a vaccination program on the grounds that HPV is a valuable impediment to premarital sex. They want to preserve cervical cancer as an incentive toward abstinence, even if it means sacrificing the lives of thousands of women each year. 

When we discuss Pro-Life we should understand what life we are pro and if we want the IRS legislating morality.

 

Tuesday, February 8, 2011

Reconciling

In his sample prayer Jesus included "give us our daily bread." On the same occasion he appears to be critical of those who express concern about their life, what they will eat, what they will drink and what they will wear. He tells the folks that the Gentiles worry about the same things but your Father KNOWS you need them. Jesus told the folks if they will seek His kingdom first and all those things will be given to him. Now we know: 1) people who do not have food, drink, clothes are not seeking the kingdom or 2) are seeking the kingdom, God knows they need those things and is not providing as Jesus said he would.

 

Paul told the folks at Philipi that he had learned to be content whatever the circumstances whether well fed or hungry whether living in plenty or in want how does that contentment reconcile with asking for "our daily bread" or for that matter asking for anything?

 

How do you reconcile Jesus telling us on one hand to ask for your daily bread and other the other hand you don't need to ask because your father already knows you need them?

 

 

Monday, February 7, 2011

Object of this Life

I read that Alexander Solzhenitsyn spent eight years in prison for making a few disparaging remarks about Joseph Stalin. He went into prison an atheist and came out a Christian. After he was released he said: "I bless you prison---I bless you for being in my life---for there lying on rotting prison straw, I learned the object of life is not prosperity as I had grown up believing, but the maturing of the soul."

If Solzhenitsyn is right and the object of life is the transformation of our character through knowing and glorifying God and is not for comfort, pleasure and prosperity are Christians out of line praying to avoid the transformation?

It seems if Solzhenitsyn is correct Christians would look forward to trials and persecutions.

 

No Confidence in God

Many of my questions began with the Muslims and other religious groups. If we do not have bible support for what we believe we are no different.
 
Listening to public prayers for 40+ years praying for the sick to be healed with no results is cause to question are we doing something wrong or is God just not listening? On top of that listening to people claiming to be followers of Jesus discuss requests for help it comes to me people who have no immediate needs believe God is blessing THEM and are critical of those who find themselves requiring help. People are dying and God is providing parking places for us, God is blessing us.
 
We are sure God is blessing our congregation because we can pay for a $2 million building but just in case we have an emergency fund. We have no confidence in God. We pray expecting no response and excuse everything as God's will. Then it must be God's will for those people needing help. I do not believe that. 

Contradictions Between What We Teach and What We Believe

I agree as far as the crossing of "T's" but we have to be able to support what we claim. On the subject of maybe needing more faith then you do believe it depends on you and not God. OK  I am not saying we shouldn't pray. I am saying if we pray for our own good or we pray with any doubts James says God will NOT be listening.
 
When Jesus told the disciples to pray "give us our daily bread" he was using an example not guarantee. People in the United States with access to food from some source do not relate to people in other countries who during famines have no food source within a hundred miles see Malawi. How do you explain thousands of Christians starving to death in Malawi while Christians in the United States go on diets so they will not eat too much? Only folks who have things pretty much in control believe God provides for them. Those without have no God supplying them.
 
One of the results of our teaching is people claiming to be followers of Jesus not believing. They see no practical reason for Jesus. We teach protection/security/health in THIS life and when folks do not experience it they see us as liars or worse. 

Friday, February 4, 2011

Does God Answer Prayers by Proxy?

Have you considered the church is called the "body of Christ" and that followers of Christ are Jesus' face and hands etc to the world? Have you considered that by the influence God has on his followers he is able to affect the lives of people who come in contact with his followers? Have you considered instead of praying for God to touch the lives of people who are rejecting him the prayer should be for God to go with US as WE touch the lives of those people; as we teach them? Have you considered that instead of praying for God to comfort the sick and dying the prayer should be for God to go with US as WE comfort the sick and dying?
 

 
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What is God's Purpose To Answer Prayer?

When we pray we should consider specifically what we expect God to do to answer that prayer and then see if there is support for such an expectation in the New Testament. Muslims pray with faith as do other religions so to differentiate ourselves from them we must have Bible support for what we believe-expect-hope for.
 
When you ask God to comfort an individual:

  

  1. Do you believe except for your prayer God would not comfort/heal that individual?
  2. Do you fully expect God WILL not CAN but WILL comfort/heal that individual based solely on your prayer? (See what James says about praying with doubts and asking and not receiving).
  3. What was Jesus' and the Apostles' purpose to heal?
  4. What is God's purpose to respond positively to your prayer?
 
 

When We Ask

When we ask God to "touch someone's heart" or "help them to understand" we are asking God to bypass his way of "the foolishness of preaching" and "faith comes by hearing". Why would he do that? God wants everyone to be saved so the prayer is saying to "we know you want everyone to be saved but your way is not working for this individual so give him something special." If God could do something special for that individual and not do it what kind of a loving God is that? There is no Bible support for such expectation.

What Do We Expect?

In the Psalms when David wrote "Praise God" was he praising God or was he saying the readers should praise God? When you praise your children do you say "Praise 'insert name'" or do you say something positive about or to that child?

 

When we are instructed to pray for someone are we supposed to say "We pray for 'insert name'" or are we supposed to ask God to do something for that person?

 

In response to such prayers what specifically do we expect?

For What Should We Pray?

 

James wrote: "Every good gift and every perfect gift is from above, coming down from the Father of lights. . ."  do you have even the vaguest idea what he is talking about? 

 

In Ecclesiastes, Solomon wrote: ""that everyone should eat and drink and take pleasure in all his toil—this is God's gift to man" and " Everyone also to whom God has given wealth and possessions and power to enjoy them, and to accept his lot and rejoice in his toil—this is the gift of God." Apparently, since God created everything he put emotion in man to appreciate feeling productive. That humankind feels emotion could be considered a gift of God. He also wrote: "Everyone also to whom God has given wealth and possessions and power to enjoy them, and to accept his lot and rejoice in his toil—this is the gift of God." If you accept that as it is translated God is responsible for the employed as well as the unemployed. If he is responsible for the good he is liable for the bad and therefore deserves praise and blame. I believe the bible disagrees with that.

 

God has set the world into motion and has told his followers how to function within the rules he has established.  

 

The NT is replete with examples of what those first Christians prayed for and they are not what we pray for. 

 

Is God Involved?

My conclusions about prayer are unsettling because believers feel better thinking they are in control; that God is waiting to respond to their beck and call. Their misunderstanding leads to questions like "Why do bad things happen to good people; Why do bad things happen to me? The Bible tells us that without our asking, God will take care of us; that he knows what is best for us; and will help us through what ever mess we find ourselves in.

 

Why are we so hesitant to accept what happens…

 

Romans 8:28  

    And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. 

 

Matthew 6:31-34  

    Do not be anxious, saying, 'What shall we eat?' or 'What shall we drink?' or 'What shall we wear?'  For the Gentiles seek after all these things, and your heavenly Father knows that you need them all. But seek first the kingdom of God and his righteousness, and all these things will be added to you.

    "Therefore do not be anxious about tomorrow, for tomorrow will be anxious for itself. Sufficient for the day is its own trouble.

 

Philippians 4:6-7  

    … Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Christ Jesus.

 

Matthew 26:42  

    Again … he …prayed, "My Father, if this cannot pass unless I drink it, your will be done." 

 

Why are we so hesitant to accept what happens…

 

Thursday, February 3, 2011

WILLIAM BARCLAY ON PRAYER

   The late William Barclay, longtime professor at the University of Glasgow in Scotland whose publications were widely read, and are till being read, in the United States, had a consummate interest in prayer. He published several volumes of The Plain Man's Book of Prayers which included morning and evening prayers, along with Bible readings. He not only authored prayers for festival days throughout the church year, but for such special occasions in the home as the birth of a child, when a child first goes to school, marriage, in time of illness, in time of sorrow, when bad news comes, when good news comes, after a quarrel, when we retire. He has prayers for many professions — the soldier and the school teacher, the doctor and the lawyer, the farmer and the writer.
 
   Petitions from a morning prayer:
   Grant that,
   Nothing may cause us to lose our temper;
   Nothing may take away our joy;
   Nothing may ruffle our peace;
   Nothing may make us bitter towards any man.
  A few lines from that prayer reads: "There is so much for which we need forgiveness. For the time we have wasted; for the opportunities we have neglected; for the strength we have given to the wrong things; for all the mistakes we have made. Forgive us, O God."
   Anyone who has given so much thought to prayer, even composing hundreds of them, has earned the right to be heard when it comes to the "know how" of prayer. In one of his prayer books he provides an introduction titled "Ourselves And Our Prayers" in which he reveals some of the conclusions he has reached after decades of study of the subject. I now share some of these with you, along with some of my own observations..
   Barclay believed that prayer should not be a monologue in which we do all the talking, but also a time for listening for the voce of God. As he puts it: "The highest form of prayer is silence when we wait on God and listen to God." We have a low view of prayer, he insists, if we view prayer as telling God what we want him to do. We should rather listen to God to see what he wants us to do. Prayer is not making use of God, but giving ourselves to God. We are to linger in prayer in silence, enjoying the peace of God's presence, and feel the serenity of perfect security.
   I don't think the professor meant that we are to expect God to speak to us audibly as he did to Christ and the apostles and prophets. We are not to look for modern-day revelations in our prayers. But we can petition God, as did a psalmist, "Search me, O God, and know my heart; try me and know my anxieties, and see if there is any wicked way in me" (Psalm 139:23). Then we are to listen to our heart, to our conscience, for the "voice" of God. Barclay didn't mean that we are to listen and God will tell us what house to buy. God also speaks to us through common sense!
   Prayer is not an acquired art, Barclay tells us, but an instinct. At one time or another we cannot help but pray, and it is noteworthy that in the most primitive of societies people are found to pray to such gods as they have. We all pray, even those who profess no religion, when life becomes more than we can bear. When we face utter helplessness and hopelessness we pray. This being the case, if prayer is natural, why do we need to learn how to do it? Breathing is also natural, as is eating and sleeping, and yet we can learn techniques whereby we do these things better.
   There is technique to everything, Barclay reminds us, including prayer. The disciples asked Jesus to teach them but one thing, how to pray. The Lord responded, giving them what we call the Lord's Prayer. He realized we need to learn how to pray more appropriately. Paul insisted that "We do not know what we should pray for as we ought," (Romans 8:26), noting that the Spirit helps us in our weakness, making intercession for us. We can also learn from those who are gifted in prayer, from those who have lived prayerful lives, through tragedy and triumph alike.
   The fact that God is more ready to hear our prayers than we are to pray, and more willing to give than we are to receive, should make prayer easier for us, and more of a joyous experience than an act of duty. Barclay references two parables about prayer that he believes have been interpreted so as to leave the wrong impression about God hearing prayers. One is the Parable of the Unjust Judge (Luke 18:2-7) which tells how a poor widow finally got justice in a court of law by hounding the judge. Persistence! The other parable is about the Friend at Midnight (Luke 11:5-8) that tells about a man, desperate to borrow food from a neighbor who doesn't want to be disturbed at midnight, but at last relents at the man's continual knocking at the door. Again, persistence!
   These parables have been made to teach that God, like the unjust judge and the reluctant neighbor, may have to be cajoled and badgered — "Bombard God with prayer" we sometimes hear — before he responds to us. Persistence! Barclay says such teaching has done much harm, for God is not like the unjust judge or the reluctant neighbor at all, for he is eager to hear our prayers and more than willing to respond. The parables are teaching contrast, not likeness. If an irascible judge would at last show justice to a nagging widow, how much more will God show mercy to those who call upon him. If a sleepy neighbor is at last aroused to act by persistent knocking, how much more will God respond to those who eagerly petition him. We may be persistent in prayer, and in emergencies we are likely to be, but it isn't necessary, God being the eager-to-show-mercy God that he is.
That is what the parables are teaching, Barclay believes, that God is a loving Father who is rich in mercy, and who does not have to be badgered into bestowing his grace. "Prayer warriors," they call themselves, who gang-up on God and storm the gates of heaven to persuade God to act in behalf of their cause might do well to heed these prayer parables.
   The professor ventures that there are laws to prayer. The first law, he says, is that prayer must be honest, emanating from a sincere heart. He quotes Martin Luther to the effect that the first law of prayer is "Don't lie to God." We may pray as if we want to be changed, when in fact we have no intention of changing. Barclay charges that most of us want to stay the way we are. The peril of prayer, he warns, is pious and meaningless platitudes.
   The second law is that prayer is to be definite and precise, avoiding generalities. We are not simply to ask for forgiveness. Barclay says that is easy and comfortable. We are to name and confess the sin before God. So with thanksgiving. We are to name the blessings for which we are thanking God. Nor are we to  pray generally for God to make us a better person, but to name the ways in which we know we are lacking. It may difficult for a woman to admit she has been mean-spirited and jealous, or for a man to confess his lust or sexual fantasies. Rather than pray for others in a general way, we should call their names, one by one.
   Even if we get all this right, the professor insists, there are still other laws, such as remembering that God cannot grant a selfish request, and that he will not do for us what we can do for ourselves. And that God always knows best. In our ignorance we may pray for what, in the end, would not be for our good. Too, we must realize that prayer moves through the natural laws that govern life. Someone who accidentally falls from a high ladder or window who asks God to keep him from falling prays in vain, as does the one who chooses to smoke all his life, and then asks God not to allow his habit to affect his lungs.
   We teach the wrong lesson about prayer to our youth when we pray that the weather will not disturb their outing. And we can pray until we are blue in the face about our debts — and the trillions of our national debt — but debts will be reduced only as we follow the frugal principles of economics that God himself has put in place. We can pray for the wisdom and the courage to follow such principles.
   Finally, the professor references what he sees as the most fatal error in our prayers, the notion that prayer is an escape from an untoward situation when it is rather a conquest of the situation. We cannot escape the storms of life, nor should we pray to do so, but we can pray for strength and steadfastness to endue the storms. When we or our loved one become terminally ill, it is time to pray for peace of heart and mind, and to praise and thank him that we have a hope that sustains us to the end.
   Barclay believes that there is no such thing as an unanswered prayer. God hears and responds to all our prayers. The answer is not always Yes, for it may be No or Wait. He thinks it significant that in Gethsemane Jesus prayed that he might not have to drink the bitter cup of the Cross, and yet it was "not my will but yours be done." While the answer was No, he received the strength to endure torture, even unto the salvation of the world. Barclay sees that as a great lesson for us on the purpose and meaning of prayer.

Saturday, January 29, 2011

The Problem With "Church Words"

The problem with "church words" is each individual has their own defintion and they are than you do so when you say you are saved by grace it means something different to others than it does to you. Which makes the terms useless. When you say we are saved by grace, grace is not a activity it is a motivation. Of course the term is used to represent something such as Jesus but who knows. Besides, they are in the Bible because the translators left them in there instead of translating them. Much like Cisco and Pancho when they spoke English except for a couple of Mexican terms. Let's go muchachos or andolai or however you spell them.

Thursday, January 27, 2011

Church Word

In a class last Sunday the teacher talked about our giving grace to others as God gives us grace. Several people commented they had a hard time giving grace to people. If they would use the word "kind" it would make it much more simple. Be kind to others. Do for them what they do not deserve. That makes more sense than giving grace. Then there is "saying" grace before a meal.

Reference January GA, “Making Sense of Division and Controversy in the Lord’s Church”

Brian Giselbach:

 

Reference your article in January GA, "Making Sense of Division and Controversy in the Lord's Church"

I enjoyed your article. Have you considered: 
What if we did not have to be in total agreement to get along? What if the purpose of the assemblies was to encourage and to strengthen each other and not to worship God? What if nothing anyone does in the assembly can have a negative affect on those who do not agree with what was being done? It appears Paul and Jesus thought that since neither, Paul to the church in Corinth nor Jesus to the seven churches in Asia, told the good guys to leave the bad guys. What if staying together teaching was the practice instead of separation and ostracising? What if dividing the church as warned about in Matthew 7 and Romans 15 was the worst thing anyone could do? And when congregations divide both sides are wrong. What if the church practiced real congregational autonomy instead of selective autonomy? Selective as in doing things the same way I do them.

When Jesus told the apostles as often as they eat the bread and drink the cup to do it in remembrance of him he did not say in worship of me. We have memorial services all the time for our friends who have died and do not consider that worship so calling the Lord's Supper worship is a stretch.  How is singing to each other, praying for ourselves, contributing primarily for our own comfort, listening to a speaker worship? I do not find in the NT anything about worship other than Jesus said his followers would and Paul told us how, by presenting our body a living sacrifice.

It seems to me our concept of the assembly is the root of most of the problems in the church today. Just some thoughts.
Again, nice article.

 

  


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Tuesday, January 25, 2011

Reference “Preaching That Pleases God” in January 2011, GA

Doug Burleson:
 

Reference "Preaching That Pleases God" in January 2011, GA

 

I enjoyed your article. You wrote "Conflict in preaching the gospel is inevitable. … it might be tempting to preach in a way that pleases a certain element in the congregation. . ."

 

May I suggest that the situation you write about occurs because Christians in general including preachers do not intellectually absorb what the Bible says? We read the Bible but do not intellectually absorb what it says.

 

An example: our congregation built a new church building. When it was completed the preacher proudly announced that "we" know that when God wants something done he provides the means. Today our congregation has a $42 thousand dollar emergency fund. Apparently we have a fund in case God does not provide. If God provided the means for the building isn't it reasonable he would provide the means to pay the debt in any situation?

 

Also, we have installed an alarm system. Now remember, the general cover-all-topics prayer each assembly covers fervent requests for health and safety. We are sure God heals and protects so why do we need an alarm system? If he provided the building wouldn't it stand to reason he would protect it?

 
I have identified what I call the Law of Verifiability which says when verifiability is low confidence is high and when verifiability is high confidence is low. As with the Law of Gravity there is no law just observations of consistent behavior.

 
Christians will quote Paul "I can do all things through him who strengthens me" but they do not intellectually absorb what he is saying. In the conceptual stage they have full confidence (verifiability is low, confidence is high) but as in a preacher's situation you write about when it could mean the loss of a paycheck, confidence wanes (verifiability is high, confidence is low).

 

As I wrote, nice article; I apologize for the length of this email.

 

p.s. To explain where I am coming from for the above comments: I do not believe God is active in the physical world. Jesus said His kingdom is not of this world. So prayers for the physical go unanswered. If God would involve himself in our physical situations we would have to understand why he would give us food but stood bye or sat and watched thousands of Malawi Christians starve to death. Preachers will get fired, buildings will be robbed and nothing we ask of God will cause him to change that. I accept that and do not ask him to get involved while others ask but do not expect. When I asked about our emergency fund I was told trusting God is testing God and is also bad financial practice. Interesting attitude.  

 

If you are still reading this, this is finally the end. 

 

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Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue.
 

Monday, January 24, 2011

Is He or Isn't He?

A church built a  $2 million building, counting furniture et al. When it was completed the preacher proudly announced that "we" know that when God wants something he provides the means. Now the church is in debt about $1.3 million budgeted $81 thousand for the mortgage and $42 thousand dollar emergency fund in case contributions drop off. If God provided the means for the building isn't it reasonable he would provide the means to pay the debt? Do you understand the logic?
 
The same church has installed an alarm system. This was installed by people who, every Sunday,  fervently pray for health and safety. They trust their health and safety to God and are sure God heals and protects so why do they need an alarm system? If he can provide the building in the first place wouldn't it stand to reason he would protect it?
 
These two examples of my Law of Verifiability in action. The Law of Verifiability says when verifiability is high confidence is low and when verifiability is low confidence is high, 
 
When question the response was that not having an emergency fund would be bad business practice and would be testing God. Apparently trusting God tests God and is bad business. When asked if they thought before Jesus sent his disciples out and told them not to take anything with them he checked to be sure the people would be generous towards the disciples? There was no answer. 
 
Can you explain the logic? Is God active in the physical world today or not?

Friday, January 21, 2011

What does it mean to operate on Faith?

Hi guys:
 
Considering the congregations budget for 2011, many congregations have a rainy day fund. If I heard right we have a $30,000+ "emergency fund." That means we are taking $30,000 contributed to the congregation and are setting it aside in case God does not provide. Supports my comment of years ago that GSMCOC does not operate on faith. We don't do anything that we do not believe we can see the way.
 
I have identified what I all the Law of Verifiability. As there is no "Law of Gravity, there is no law just consistent observations. The Law of Verifiability says: Confidence increases as verifiability decreases; and confidence decreases when verifiability increases. Example we pray for safety and security (high level of confidence; low verifiability) but we install an alarm system to protect the building (low level of confidence; high verifiability). If God gave us the building isn't it logical he would protect it?
 
Do we believe that when God wants something done he will provide the means. We are taking $30,000 setting is aside just in case we want to do something that God does not provide for. Isn't that a bit odd? What does it mean to rely on God? 

 
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Email:
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Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue.
 

Tuesday, January 18, 2011

Rewriting History

I heard the Imam of the Muslim Center being built a few blocks from Ground Zero has been removed. Haven't heard the reason but we'll see if they are trying to help their friend, our Pres. It reminded me of Obama's nice speech concerning America's commitment to religious freedom. I do not recall hearing any objections from the Christian segment but this country has never had a commitment to religious freedom.

 

From the first arrivals religion has been used to discriminate, suppress, kill, the heretics and unbelievers including the heathens already here. While most claimed to be Christian there were battles between the Protestant groups as well as between Protestant and Catholics. There might have been 14 colonies except Quebec was Catholic and Catholics were hated. Remember the Mormons?

 

Talk about Obama rewriting history no one objected. Religious division has been part of our history. We should not be surprised if he rewrites other history.

 

 

 
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Some days you're the pigeon, some days you're the statue.
 

Saturday, January 15, 2011

Will There be Degrees of Reward in Heaven?

"We do not know." Christ came to this world to break down middle walls of division and to make of the different families, tribes, and nations of earthone new man. We do not think he has erected divisions or barriers between the redeemed in the world to come. Seems logical. Jesus did tell a parable about the farmer paying all workers the same whether they worked all day or the last hour. 

Thursday, January 13, 2011

Will there be degrees of reward and punishment in Eternity?

Will there be degrees of reward and punishment in Eternity?

We do not know.

Sunday, January 9, 2011

On the subject of Jesus' prayer

If Jesus was praying he would not have to be crucified what does that say about him as he sat or stood by watching his followers die for him and in some cases suffer more excruciating deaths than that of crucifixion? He tried to get out of it but did nothing to help his followers. I think he was more concerned with being separated from God which we cannot understand since we sin and are not abandoned by God.
 

 
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For the New Year's Eve countdown in Brasstown, North Carolina, a live possum is lowered from the roof of a Citgo just before midnight.
 
 

Thursday, January 6, 2011

Christian Without Assembling?

Editor, The Christian Chronicle:

 

Individuals say they can be Christian without the church. Christian means "follower of Christ." History tells us the majority of those claiming to be followers of Christ believe they do not need to assemble on Sunday evening and Wednesday evening. They are a small step from those who believe they can be followers of Christ without the church.

 
How do our assemblies help us to be followers of Jesus?

 
The attitude of being Christian without the church is becoming more prevalent. What we do in our assemblies must continuously undergo scrutiny. We cannot continue to require those who do not attend to be the only ones who need to change. 

 

John Jenkins

Gatlinburg, TN 37738

865-430-4427

jrjenki@gmail.com
 

 

Wednesday, January 5, 2011

Is "going to church" mostly habit?

Some folks say they can be Christian without the church. My opinion is that when people say that they mean they can be Christian without a specific congregation. But that got me to thinking again. That and working an occasional Sunday at Dollywood. Can someone follow Jesus without being attending the local CoC?
 
How do our assemblies help us to be followers of Jesus? What part does singing several partial songs, listening to a general cover all topics prayer, listening to a sermon, sitting quietly, but efficiently and eating as small a piece of bread as we can get, drinking a miniature shot glass of grape juice and giving our money for the primary purpose of supporting the local congregation  encourage us to be followers of Jesus. How does sitting quietly listening for an hour help one to follower Christ. Is that "fellowship?"
 
So, can one be a follower of Christ without being closely associated with a specific congregation?
 
It seems to me the attitude of Christian, Yes, church No is becoming more prevalent. Is this a topic local congregations should be concerned with. Is "going to church" mostly habit?
 

 
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Tuesday, January 4, 2011

His Kingdom is Not of the World

Why do people think how God comforts anyone anytime? When Stephen died we interpret Jesus standing as showing interest in what was happening to Stephen. We add people to our prayer lists and nothing happens. We tell folks to remember someone in their prayers. What specific good does that provide? I hear people ask for prayers because they have a cold. I had stents put in and did not ask God for anything because I knew he does not get involved in this physical world. Folks who fought to distribute the Bible in English were killed for their efforts. Why do people say they believe when all evidence shows God does not get involved in this physical world. His kingdom is not of this world why do we think it is?

Monday, January 3, 2011

Tyndale

I read an article about the Tyndal bible, and how after 500 days in jail Tyndale was tied to a stake, strangled, and burned to death. You gotta give those English fellows credit. They execute in style. We stick'em with a needle or electrocute'm  or gas'm.  His last words were "Lord, open the eyes of the King of England." Another prayer. The last words of our executees goes something like "Let's do it!" or something similarly blase. I realize the Bible says to pray and does not give instructions as to what we should pray for BUT it is quite obvious God does not answer prayers. It baffles me why we continue to believe in it so much though we never see any response out of God. It seems to me we would question why and seek to find out why but we do not.How can one pray expecting when we never see a response? We just say "prayer works" while evidence abounds that it does not. 
 

 
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The very first bomb dropped by the Allies on Berlin in World War II killed the only elephant in the Berlin Zoo.


What and When is Marriage?

 
Various methods of birth control and society's loose view's of out-of-marriage pregnancies have changed the world. Today with proper cautionary considerations people can have sex with anyone or anything, anywhere, anytime. Less than half a century ago horny teenagers got married, had sex, and in a few years divorced.  Today with such a wide variety of ways to "relieve one's tension" marriage is delayed and in today's society with divorce laws so liberal serves no purpose.
 
A couple of "B" actors are going there separate ways. They had never married. The actress said the prospect of marriage didn't appeal to her. "Not to say that I don't believe in it, but it's just not something that's important to me, But I will have children. I'm too selfish to have them now, but when I do, I don't feel like I need to be married. I need to have a person in my life who will care for me and my children -- nothing else." Questions: What is the definition of marriage if not that? The Bible talks about two becoming one. We talk about "What God has joined together let no man split assunder" or something like that. Does God join them even though they do to want to be joined?
 
Is the actress giving a modern definition to marriage?

 
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The very first bomb dropped by the Allies on Berlin in World War II killed the only elephant in the Berlin Zoo.


Wednesday, December 29, 2010

Christian?

Have you considered that we make more of the term Christian than the "Christians" in the first-century did? Have you ever wondered why they were not called Jesusians?.
 
Paul taught what the Christ would do and how he would be treated and THEN he connected Jesus with being that Christ. Christ is a title such as Pharaoh or Caesar and not Jesus' surname. 
 
How would anyone not having been taught by the Disciples think of Jesus as the Christ or that these Disciples were following the Christ's teachings perfectly or even imperfectly?.
 
Some liken Christians to being Christ-like and we use terms such as "Jesus took my place" or "in my stead." We had no place, we had no stead.  Jesus did it all. All we can do is follow him. The best we can hope for is to be a "Follower of the Christ."
 
Christian is a word without a clear definition therefore a useless word. It means whatever the individual thinks it means but no one can misunderstand "Follower of Christ."
 

 
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The very first bomb dropped by the Allies on Berlin in World War II killed the only elephant in the Berlin Zoo.