Wednesday, October 31, 2012

Silent Women

Have you ever wondered how Paul could approve of women praying and prophesying during public worship in chapter 11 and then a few pages later write that women must remain silent during public worship in chapter 14?

 

 

As I have mentioned I do not know the original languages so I read and see what others who supposedly do know the languages say. It is up to each individual to decide for themselves what they believe. The problem is when we are wrong even with best intentions we do damage to the church. Whether we like it or not there is a time for doubt especially regarding what we believe. In a recent issue of Smithsonian Magazine there is an article concerning an artist, Barbra Kruger, who has an exhibit in Washington DC, entitled "Belief + Doubt." Her aim is at Congress but the church also needs a bit of doubt to go along with belief.  She says adding doubt to belief subtracts something from belief: blind certainty.

 

 

At the close of the Constitutional Convention, Benjamin Franklin spoke to his fellow delegates. He called for a unanimous vote, even while acknowledging that he had his own reservations about some of its provisions. Yet he acknowledged his own fallibility and asked them to confront the danger of their certainty as well:
 
 

"Most men "think themselves in possession of all truth, and that wherever others differ from them it is so far error. Yet, when you assemble a number of men to have the advantage of their joint wisdom, you inevitably assemble with those men, all their prejudices, their passions, their errors of opinion, their local interests, and their selfish views. From such an assembly can a perfect production be expected? It therefore astonishes me, Sir, to find this system approaching so near to perfection as it does..."



Too many of us are certain our views are perfection. Franklin reminds us that a democracy depends not so much on perfect solutions as on humble collaboration.
 
If you decide to read this you may want to read it in bits and pieces.

 

 

I am told there is a word in Greek that means "tie shut," "muzzle." It is often used to describe a kind of forced silence, and could be best translated in to English as "shut up."  It describes how Jesus' answer silenced the Pharisees (Matthew 22:34). In the parable of the wedding feast, the word tells how the man who did not bother to wear a wedding garment remained speechless when confronted by the host (Matthew 22:12).  Jesus used the word as a command to quiet the unclean spirit that he cast out of the man (Mark 1:25) and too still the wind and sea (Mark 4:39).  The word is phimoo and means forcing someone to be silent. When Paul wrote that women are to be silent, he did not use this word, even thought the English translation may imply a command.

 

 

Another word for silence in Greek indicating quietness and stillness is hesuchia.  Paul instructed women to enter into hesuchia in his first letter to Timothy. But he instructed they do so when they are studying. Paul did not use the word regarding women when they are worshiping.

 

 

Instead, Paul chose the Greek word sigao when he wrote "Let the women in the churches be silent." Sigao, I am told indicates voluntary silence. It is used to describe the disciples to remain silent about the transfiguration that they had just witnessed (Luke 9:36) and when Jesus told the Pharisees that if his disciples were silent (as the Pharisees insisted) then the very stones would cry out (Luke 19:40).  It was used to describe Jesus' silence during his trial before Pilate (Mark 14:61) and the silence of the apostles and elders as they listened to a report by Paul and Barnabas when they returned from their missionary journey (Acts 15:12). Sigao can also be a request as when the multitude accompanying Jesus told the insistent beggar to quit yelling (Luke 18:39) or when Peter motioned for the crowd to be silent (Acts 12:17).  

 

 

Sigao is the kind of silence asked for in the midst of disorder and clamor. Paul asked women of the church to keep that kind of silence. The he added "It is a shame for a woman to speak in church." How could Paul acknowledge and advocate women prophesying alongside men during and then denounce women for speaking in church?

 

 

Paul did not write that women are not to preach, or teach, or declare or give a discourse, or proclaim, or affirm, or aver, or speak for something, or any other of the distinctive meanings found in many of those verbs. Paul wrote that women are not to laleo. Lateo can denote the act of saying something quite important. But of all the verbs that can be translated "speak," only lateo can mean simply "talk."

 

 

If someone wished to write in Greek "Please do not talk during the prayers," the verb would have to be lateo. Paul was addressing a congregation where discord and chaos during worship services were common he told the women not to lateo---not to converse. Paul was saying it was shameful for women to keep talking during worship service.

 

 

Why would Paul aim this instruction toward women rather than toward both women and men? The social roles, especially of married women may suggest an answer. Kari Torjesen Malcolm was a missionary in China as was her mother. She told this story:

 

 

My mother used to compare the situation in Corinth to the one she and my father faced in northern China. Back in the 1920s when they were the first to bring God's message to that forgotten area, they found women with bound feet who seldom left their homes and who, unlike men, had never in their whole lives attended a public meeting or a class. They had never been told as little girls, 'Now you must sit still and listen to the teacher.' Their only concept of an assembly was a family feast where everyone talked at once.

 
 
When these women came to my parents' church and gathered on the women's side of the sanctuary, they thought this was a chance to catch up on the news with their neighbors and to ask questions about the story of Jesus they were hearing. Needless to say, along with babies crying and toddlers running about, the women's section got rather noisy! Add to that the temptation for the women to shout their questions to their husbands across the aisle, and you can imagine the chaos. As my mother patiently tried to tell the women that they should listen first and chitchat or ask questions later, she would mutter under her breath, 'Just like Corinth; it just couldn't be more like Corinth.' [Kari Torejsen Malcolm, Women at the Crossroads (USA:IVP, 1982), 73-74]

 

 

Paul approved of women praying and prophesying, during worship. He insisted men and women should be together, and that in Christ they are one. But these were new and radical ideas to both the Jews and the Gentiles. In practice sexual equality among Christians led to a disregard for orderliness and courtesy during worship, especially on the part of women who were unaccustomed to listening to public speakers or to participating in public worship. To those women Paul said "Hush up."

 

 

 



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''Being an executive requires a combination of charisma, a capacity to sustain boredom, and the ability to shallowly perform on harrying schedules.''
 —Nassim Nichols Taleb



Head coverings and Hair

We believe because we want to believe and our belief is based on our perception of the person telling us the alleged fact.

 

Those in the know tell us what the United States did in Iraq when we removed a legal government and turned their president over to his enemies for execution and then reorganized their entire system of government could be likened to the North, following the civil war, putting the black folks in charge of everything in the South.

 

Women in history have always been considered differently than men. Even in our enlightened society women could not vote until the early part of the 20th century. For a long time they were denied education. Imagine if the Holy Spirit had included in the Bill of Rights in 1791, the right of black women to vote. Imagine Mississippi in the 1860s or even 1960s. Paul had similar considerations. Jesus did not free the slaves. Generally the Bible does not upset cultural norms but neither does it enforce those norms on other cultures. Neither should we.

 

You have to read on the subject of head coverings and hairstyles and come to your own conclusions. As much as Al talks against commentaries Al is a commentator no different than any other commentator. Not knowing the original languages I can only rely on what commentator's or author's think on the subject.

 

My conclusions to-date include: In 1 Corinthians Paul gave theological reason why a Christian man ought not to wear something hanging down from the head while praying or prophesying. He reminded the readers that their head is not Moses, but Christ. Look in Exodus 34 concerning Moses' veil etc. Paul says the question is not what a man does with his head, but what a man says by what he does with his head.  

 

Jewish custom demanded that women too cover their heads when worshiping. If Paul was to be consistent in his insistence on the oneness of men and women in Christ, wouldn't you expect him to give the same instructions to women concerning head coverings as he did to men? But what a woman did with her head held different social significance from what a man did with his.

 

Married Jewish women were obligated to keep their hair bound up on their heads or else covered over whenever they appeared in public---as was the practice of many Greek married women. It was a symbol of their married state, much like a wedding ring today. For a Jewish woman to loosen her hair in public would have been even more dramatic than for a woman to throw her wedding ring away.

 

Therefore, Paul objected to those wives who appeared in public worship with hair hanging loose, uncovered before the eyes of the congregation. It was the same as if they had their hair cut close (the style of prostitutes) or as if they had their heads shaved.  To take such a liberty with her hair would shame a wife's "head," her husband. It was not a matter of a woman's hair being unseemly---it was her 'glory." But she herself is the glory of her husband, and she should not shame him. The question is not what a woman does with her head, but what she says by what she does with her head.

 

Since customs have changed and hairstyles no longer mean what they did in the societies of Paul's' time, his specific instruction are no longer relevant to modern Christians. However, the principle behind these instructions, of being sensitive to what message our dress codes and styles convey to others, still holds.

 

Look for yourself and see what you conclude and don't forget those silent women.



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''Being an executive requires a combination of charisma, a capacity to sustain boredom, and the ability to shallowly perform on harrying schedules.''
 —Nassim Nichols Taleb



Thursday, October 25, 2012

Model Prayer to save Time and Energy - If adopted it could take several minutes off the length of the assembly

Most prayers are repeat. When we tell God we pray for someone what does that mean? Pray means to call upon in supplication etc. When we tell God we pray for someone we are telling God we supplicate for someone but we forget to supplicate. We only talk about supplicating. Oh yes, I forgot, we believe the Holy Spirit takes failures to supplicate and makes them supplicate. I have this model prayer. It will save time and should cover any and all situations. This should make it easier on the Holy Spirit. I will keep working on the perfect, concise, prayer to the Creator of everything seen and not seen.
 

I(we) pray for everyone and everything for which(whom) I(we) have a duty to pray. Amen.

 

 



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 —Nassim Nichols Taleb



Monday, October 22, 2012

God and Elections

The complaint about Obama appears to concern him being too willing to help people while Christians want everyone to take care of themselves. Christians appear to believe if folks cannot buy food they should starve or if they do not have health insurance they should die. If God preferred democracy wouldn't one expect Saul to have included the people in the major decisions? If God preferred capitalism wouldn't one expect Joseph to have handled the Egyptian famine situation differently? Christians are a weird group. When God intervenes in elections Christians are not satisfied. How can God win?

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 —Nassim Nichols Taleb



Friday, October 19, 2012

Males....Shut Up

I remember watching the hearings when Anita Hill, a black woman, testified that Clarence Thomas, a black man, was guilty off sexual harassment to a panel of old white men. Now we have men opening their mouth and making stupid comments about abortion. It is not a male issue. Why do males talk so much about something that does not affect them. Abortion is a non-issue for anyone who will not have one. It is not a a male issue, it is not a government issue it is a women issue. Let women debate abortion. In fact it is an issue for a pregnant female no one else. Why do people have to interject themselves into matters that are none of their business.

Sunday, October 14, 2012

Heaven is Real

You can imagine my relief knowing Heaven is real. We in the Church of Christ might want to consider why we never have experiences such as this. If I believed what I am told we believe I would have to look elsewhere.
 
 
Dr. Eben Alexander has taught at Harvard Medical School and has earned a strong reputation as a neurosurgeon. And while Alexander says he's long called himself a Christian, he never held deeply religious beliefs or a pronounced faith in the afterlife.

But after a week in a coma during the fall of 2008, during which his neocortex ceased to function, Alexander claims he experienced a life-changing visit to the afterlife, specifically heaven.

"According to current medical understanding of the brain and mind, there is absolutely no way that I could have experienced even a dim and limited consciousness during my time in the coma, much less the hyper-vivid and completely coherent odyssey I underwent," Alexander writes in the cover story of this week's edition of Newsweek.

So what exactly does heaven look like?

Alexander says he first found himself floating above clouds before witnessing, "transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, streamer like lines behind them."

He claims to have been escorted by an unknown female companion and says he communicated with these beings through a method of correspondence that transcended language. Alexander says the messages he received from those beings loosely translated as:

"You are loved and cherished, dearly, forever."

"You have nothing to fear."

"There is nothing you can do wrong."

From there, Alexander claims to have traveled to "an immense void, completely dark, infinite in size, yet also infinitely comforting." He believes this void was the home of God.

After recovering from his meningitis-induced coma, Alexander says he was reluctant to share his experience with his colleagues but found comfort inside the walls of his church. He's chronicled his experience in a new book, "Proof of Heaven: A neurosurgeon's journey into the afterlife," which will be published in late October.

"I'm still a doctor, and still a man of science every bit as much as I was before I had my experience," Alexander writes. "But on a deep level I'm very different from the person I was before, because I've caught a glimpse of this emerging picture of reality. And you can believe me when I tell you that it will be worth every bit of the workit will take us, and those who come after us, to get it right."

 

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"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems."
 
 —President Barack Obama, attempting to make the case for government-run health care, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument.


Saturday, October 13, 2012

No Dentist No Visit

On Wednesday night one of the reasons folks gave for wanting to go to heaven was they did not want to go to Hell. What do you suppose God thinks of that? The only reason your children want to come to your house is they do not want to go to the dentist. No dentist, no visit.

 

How much of our vision of heaven in influenced by what we see around us in this world?

 

It was enough for David to know that: goodness and mercy shall follow me all the days of my life, and I shall dwell in the house of the Lord forever (Psalms 23:6). Did he need more details? Did he need gold streets or pearly gates or was it enough to know: … in your presence there is fullness of joy; at your right hand are pleasures forevermore. David was satisfied with looking forward to relationship with God not possible here (Psalm 16:11).

 

Abraham was: looking forward to the city that has foundations, whose designer and builder is God (Hebrews 11:10). Was Abraham expecting a literal city; a walled, fortified Jerusalem here or was he looking forward to the security which comes from knowing there is nowhere else he'd rather be.

 

The OT tells us Abraham and other patriarchs admitted they were aliens and strangers on earth. These all died in faith, not having received the things promised, but having seen them and greeted them from afar, and having acknowledged that they were strangers and exiles on the earth. For people who speak thus make it clear that they are seeking a homeland. If they had been thinking of that land from which they had gone out, they would have had opportunity to return. But as it is, they desire a better country, that is, a heavenly one. Therefore God is not ashamed to be called their God, for he has prepared for them a city. A better country is a different kind of country one with a spiritual country without walls and fortifications and houses and streets. Not even golden streets (Hebrews 11:13-16).

 

Since we like to speculate do you suppose David or Abraham would wait for the next bus to heaven? Do you suppose Christians in countries where they have no access to clean water, where they do not have enough food to feed their children, would wait for the next bus to heaven? Our culture has corrupted the church and we would prefer to stay here and if it were possible we would accept all the benefits of heaven even if God were not there. As with those folks who want to go to heaven because they do not want to go to hell does anyone want God? Did Jesus die just to provide us a better place to live?

 

No reply is necessary.

Promoting Attendance

In his book Radical, David Platt includes a story about when he was in Sudan. 

"Imagine being in Sudan. You walk into a thatched hut with a small group of Sudanese church leaders, and you sit down to teach them God's Word. As soon as you start, you lose eye contact with all of them. No one is looking at you, and you hardly see their eyes the rest of the time. The reason is they're writing down every word they hear. They come up to you afterward and say, 'Teacher we are going to take everything we have learned from God's Word, translate it into our languages, and teach it in our tribes.' They were not listening to receive but to reproduce.
On a typical Sunday in the assembly of the church some people have their Bibles open, while others don't have a Bible with them. A few people are taking notes but for the most part they are passively sitting in the audience. While some are probably disengaged, others are intently focused on what the preacher is saying, listening to God's Word to hear how it applies to their lives. Few are listening to reproduce."
What if instead of asking "What can I get out of this?" the church asked "How can I listen to his Word so that I am equipped to teach others?"

If those same folks came to GSMCOC when they returned to their tribes would those tribes know more about Al, his family, his work, the things he has done or Jesus?

People have a responsibility to attend but those "leading" in the assembly have a responsibility to provide reasons for them to attend.

When I was on a project for IBM as the Project Manager I was charged to the customer at the rate of $200-$300 an hour. Folks on the project were charged at $50 to $200 an hour. As you would expect the customer did not tolerate time being wasted. I am very aware of how important it is for meetings to stay on topic. If I were to have given a presentation to a customer and talk about myself and tell as many off topic stories as we hear in our assemblies I would have been fired.
 
James 3:1  Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness.
Do we believe James?
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"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems."
 
 —President Barack Obama, attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument.


Heaven and Hell

 

On the subjects of Heaven and Hell, are we sure the bible teaches that God created mankind, gave them a relatively short lifespan, at least relative to eternity which has always been and always will be, and if during that short lifespan they do not do things the way he wants them done he will torture them beginning at the point they die forever and beyond?

Young folks today are not buying it.

We tend to take what we read in Revelation as literal fact or worse selectively as literal fact. Those who take John's mention of a "thousand year reign" as literal fact are not likely to agree with others who take as literal fact that only 144,000 will be taken up into heaven. Nor are they likely to accept that John's picture of pearly gates and golden streets is to be taken literally; but they might be happy to believe that those who are thrown into the (literal) lake of fire (literally) will be tormented day and night for ever.

We pick and choose from the possible literal interpretations.

Unless I am mistaken, and obviously I can be, Revelation was written to seven churches in Asia or whomever that phrase refers and that at least some of those folks understood precisely what John was writing about whereas we do not.

Does speculating about Heaven or Hell serve any more of a purpose than speculating about which team will win the game today or which candidate will be the next president? What can excite Christians more than the idea of spending eternity with God, wherever?


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"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country."
 
 —Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington, D.C.


Thursday, October 11, 2012

Heaven

First congratulations on the quick thinking to come up with the term "insightful." 

The list of "things" you read that are not in Heaven such as lust, arguments, coveting etc leads me to believe we will not have free will. Angels have free will and they do not sin and as far as I understand those who don't sin have never sinned but could at any time.  We cannot say that about us. We are beings that have sinned but are given to understand we will change to beings that do not. Doesn't that require that practice start in this phase of eternity and if it does not will we be in Heaven?

 Allowing free will will exist in Heaven what will cause people claiming to be Christian who are prejudiced, argumentative, selfish etc to change or won't they be in Heaven? You said there will be no temptation. James says temptation comes from within. What will cause folks to change? Having our sins forgiven does not change the desire for sinful things. What will cause us to change.

You said our favorite people will be in Heaven and asked who our favorite people are? I forget the specific words you used but a paraphrase would be our favorite people are those with whom we share the same faith. That may be who should be our favorite people but each individual has to answer for themselves. If that is a pre-requisite then those folks whose favorite people are not people with whom they share a faith will not be there. They will be elsewhere with their favorite people.  As when Paul told the Romans the spirit is witness with our spirit that we are children of God the spirit bears witness with our spirit that we are children of God only IF we are children of God. 

Folks mention the valuable things in Heaven. If Christians understood the human cost to mining gold they should not want any amount of it. Same with diamonds and many other items considered precious.

There are people who believe animals will be in Heaven. That requires animals having souls. Would the pit-bull breed be allowed in Heaven?  What criteria must be met for an animal to enter Heaven?

The problem with dreaming of Heaven is it facilitates folks in believing whatever they believe is correct and the facts are we know nothing.  What we want makes no difference. And what could be more important to a Christian than being with God?
I used to think the way you mentioned i.e. not wanting to go to Heaven now because I wanted to watch my grandchilren graduate, get married etc. The one day it dawned on me those are all meaningless compared with Heaven. Is a Christian who does not crave being with God a Christian? If a Christian dreams about anything other than being with God and Jesus a Christian? Just how much of our treasure is stored up in Heaven and how much is stored up here? 
You asked great questions but I doubt if many caught their significance
 

God involving himself in our lives

Concerning the stories last night of the men who survived heart attacks and accidents and you said God had given them additional days.

Recently I read an article about Thomas Jefferson concerning his attitude towards and his treatment of his slaves. He is credited with pioneering the monetizing of slaves. He wrote to one of his plantation managers:

"A child raised every 2 years is of more profit then (sic) the crop of the best laboring man, in this, as in all other cases, providence has made our duties and interests coincide perfectly."

Do you suppose the mothers and fathers of those children agreed with Jefferson? If you accept Jefferson's statement doesn't that mean God put those children in a situation where they would be beaten if they did not work as Jefferson liked and/or sold to other masters thus separating them from their parents.

As folks do today anything that goes well is providence.

The founding of the United States is a great example.
In the most recent edition of the Magnolia Messenger, Cecil May responded to a reader's question concerning our obligation to governments with which we strongly disagree and honoring government. As I do to you from time to time I wrote Cecil May an email. I told him I imagined the person asking the question had President Obama in mind and asked if he would have given a different answer to Thomas Jefferson with King George in mind? I mentioned I have never noticed Bible support for armed rebellion and violent overthrow of the government as appropriate responses.

CM responded:

 "I have thought about the armed rebellion idea, especially as it relates to our Revolutionary War. I have not found a biblical way yet to justify in my own mind Christians being a part of such a thing, though as a practical matter I might find myself in a situation where I would very much want to. I am not saying there is not a biblical way to justify it. Maybe there is. I have not found it yet. However, I definitely do not think we are anywhere near to that situation now."

I told him I agree with him and since I do not see any Bible support for such actions I do not consider the United States ever was a Christian nation. We ignored Jesus' thoughts on the subject as we did Paul's and violated many biblical principles.

 

We know that God wanting something to happen will not make it happen. God wants everyone to be saved and we know that will not happen.

No amount of observations of white swans can allow the conclusion that all swans are white, but the observation of a single black swan is sufficient to refute that conclusion. ---Karl Popper

 
Giving God credit for things he does not do encourages folks to blame God for things he did not do.

 

 
If you want to read the questions and Cecil Mays' response go to

 

http://www.magnoliamessenger.com/Past%20Issues/files/2012-07.pdf

 

and scan down to page 3.
 
I will not leave you alone, again.


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"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country."
 
 —Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington, D.C.


Tuesday, October 2, 2012

For Your Cogitation


Al,

 

As you probably know Groupthink is a term coined by a social psychologist Irving Janis.  


 

Eight symptoms of groupthink:

 

  1. Illusion of invulnerability –Creates excessive optimism that encourages taking extreme risks.
  2. Collective rationalization – Members discount warnings and do not reconsider their assumptions.
  3. Belief in inherent morality – Members believe in the rightness of their cause and therefore ignore the ethical or moral consequences of their decisions.
  4. Stereotyped views of out-groups – Negative views of "enemy" make effective responses to conflict seem unnecessary.
  5. Direct pressure on dissenters – Members are under pressure not to express arguments against any of the group's views.
  6. Self-censorship – Doubts and deviations from the perceived group consensus are not expressed.
  7. Illusion of unanimity – The majority view and judgments are assumed to be unanimous.
  8. Self-appointed 'mindguards' – Members protect the group and the leader from information that is problematic or contradictory to the group's cohesiveness, view, and/or decisions.

 


Groupthink can lead to the demise of governments, corporations, and groups of all sort.




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"Outside of the killings, Washington has one of the lowest crime rates in the country."
 
 —Marion Barry, former mayor of Washington, D.C.