Thursday, October 28, 2010

Question

Question:

 

If our Father in Heaven knows what we need before we ask him and his ways and thoughts are higher than our ways and thoughts and for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose what Bible reason is there for anyone pray for anything other than God's will be done in their life? Knowing all of this to be true why would anyone think they have an idea of what is best for them? 

 

Thanks, John Jenkins
865-803-8179  cell
Gatlinburg, TN

Email:
jrjenki@gmail.com
Website: http://www.greenbriersolutions.com 
Blog:
http://littlepigeon.blogspot.com/

"And do not forget brethren, that we are drifting."
J.D. Tant

Wednesday, October 27, 2010

Re: We have gone crazy.

I try to look at situations like this from the point of view of the 1st century Christians. They had no choice we do. They did not have Christian schools, we do. To go into the World and only want to live with Christians is not feasible. If this woman wanted a Christian environment she should have gone to where they are. She should have rented an apartment.
 
The World is the World we cannot avoid that. But we do not need a pure Christian environment to survive just as those Christians in Rome did not need a pure Christian environment to survive. It may be too late but we should have appreciated the pseudo Christian environment the United States provided. Due to our apathy and negligence it is no more. Now we have to do as Daniel and his friends did in Babylon. We can function as they did and if per chance we die, we die. What makes us better than Christians throughout history? We had it handed to us on the proverbial silver platter and threw it away.

Thanks, John Jenkins
865-803-8179  cell
Gatlinburg, TN

Email: jrjenki@gmail.com
Website: http://www.greenbriersolutions.com 
Blog: http://littlepigeon.blogspot.com/

"And do not forget brethren, that we are drifting."
J.D. Tant




Tuesday, October 26, 2010

MIssion of the Church?

If the church is supposed to be Jesus' body do suppose this just might be the mission of the church?
 
After Jesus had read the scriptures to the people he told his listeners that the prophecy had been fulfilled in their presence, that day.

 

Luke 4:18-19 

    "The Spirit of the Lord is upon me,

        because he has anointed me

            to proclaim good news to the poor.

    He has sent me to proclaim liberty to the captives

        and recovering of sight to the blind,

            to set at liberty those who are oppressed,

    [19] to proclaim the year of the Lord's favor."

 

 
At the "Last Supper" when Jesus washed the feet of the apostles he said

 

John 13:13-17   

    You call me Teacher and Lord, and you are right, for so I am.  [14] If I then, your Lord and Teacher, have washed your feet, you also ought to wash one another's feet.  [15] For I have given you an example, that you also should do just as I have done to you.  [16] Truly, truly, I say to you, a servant is not greater than his master, nor is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.  [17] If you know these things, blessed are you if you do them. 

 

Do you suppose this just might be the mission of the church?

 

 

 

Friday, October 15, 2010

Billy Graham's Prayer for Our Nation

'Heavenly Father, we come before you today to ask your forgiveness and to seek your direction and guidance.  We know Your Word says, 'Woe to those who call evil good,' but that is exactly what we have done.  We have lost our spiritual equilibrium and reversed our values. We have exploited the poor and called it the lottery. We have rewarded laziness and called it welfare. We have killed our unborn and called it choice. We have shot abortionists and called it justifiable.  We have neglected to discipline our children and called it building self esteem.  We have abused power and called it politics. We have coveted our neighbor's possessions and called it ambition.  We have polluted the air with profanity and pornography and called it freedom of expression.  We have ridiculed the time-honored values of our forefathers and called it enlightenment  Search us, Oh God, and know our hearts today; cleanse us from every sin and Set us free. Amen!' 

Thursday, October 14, 2010

Senior version of Jesus Loves Me

 
Jesus loves me, this I know,
Though my hair is white as snow
Though my sight is growing dim,
Still He bids me trust in Him.
(CHORUS)
YES, JESUS LOVES ME.. YES, JESUS LOVES ME..
YES, JESUS LOVES ME FOR THE BIBLE TELLS ME SO.
Though my steps are oh, so slow,
With my hand in His I'll go
On through life, let come what may,
He'll be there to lead the way.
(CHORUS)
When the nights are dark and long,
In my heart He puts a song.
Telling me in words so clear,
'Have no fear, for I am near.'
(CHORUS)
When my work on earth is done,
And life's victories have been won.
He will take me home above,
Then I'll understand His love
(CHORUS)
I love Jesus, does He know?
Have I ever told Him so?
Jesus loves to hear me say,
That I love Him every day.
(CHORUS)

Sunday, October 10, 2010

Justin Martyr's description of a second century gathering of the local Church.

And we afterwards continually remind each other of these things. And the wealthy among us help the needy; and we always keep together; and for all things wherewith we are supplied, we blessthe Maker of all through His Son Jesus Christ, and through the Holy Ghost. And on the day calledSunday, all who live in cities or in the country gather together to one place, and the memoirs of the apostles or the writings of the prophets are read, as long as time permits; then, when the reader has ceased, the president verbally instructs, and exhorts to the imitation of these goodthings. Then we all rise together and pray, and, as we before said, when our prayer is ended, bread and wine and water are brought, and the president in like manner offers prayers and thanksgivings, according to his ability, and the people assent, saying Amen; and there is a distribution to each, and a participation of that over which thanks have been given, and to those who are absent a portion is sent by the deacons. And they who are well to do, and willing, give what each thinks fit; and what is collected is deposited with the president, who succours theorphans and widows and those who, through sickness or any other cause, are in want, and those who are in bonds and the strangers sojourning among us, and in a word takes care of all who are in need. But Sunday is the day on which we all hold our common assembly, because it is the first day on which God, having wrought a change in the darkness and matter, made the world; andJesus Christ our Saviour on the same day rose from the dead. For He was crucified on the day before that of Saturn (Saturday); and on the day after that of Saturn, which is the day of the Sun, having appeared to His apostles and disciples, He taught them these things, which we have submitted to you also for your consideration.

Saturday, October 9, 2010

Does God Only Help Those Who Help Themselves

Where in the bible does it instruct us to pray for the sick but call the doctor first? Also where in the Bible is the concept that God will not protect our church buildings unless we first install a security system?  


Thanks, John Jenkins
865-803-8179  cell
Gatlinburg, TN

Email: jrjenki@gmail.com
Website: http://www.greenbriersolutions.com 
Blog: http://littlepigeon.blogspot.com/

"And do not forget brethren, that we are drifting."
J.D. Tant

Thursday, October 7, 2010

Re: Outlive Your Life

I do not believe  that God is real for most people who consider themselves Christian.
 
At our last mens business meeting the subject was securing the building. We have an alarm system but do not have it on. We will turn it on soon. I don't think we need one. The catholics have had open buildings for centuries and anyone can go in and pray or or genuflect or whatever. While we lock our building to keep the derelicts out. One fellow told me the other night that where he used to go the building was broken into and their food supply for the poor was pretty much ransacked. I asked him what the problem was. Their congregation had participated in a benevolent act without having to participate. Apparently we are concerned someone will steal our sound system. I told them no problem if they do we can get a better one.
 
ON television several years ago some prognosticator was positive looking down the road 5 years of what Iran would do if Israel did such and such . But when asked what Iran was going to do tomorrow in response to a certain act by Israel today he was not sure.   It appears the more verifiable the less his confidence and when the act is less verifiable his confidence increased.
 
Same with prayer. Does it say anything about a people's convictions when they claim prayer works and have absolute confidence God will heal their sick but are not that confident about him protecting the congregation's property?
 
How about the confidence shown by others who withhold medical treatment because their faith in God's healing is so great. Why do you suppose we think they are loony for having such a ridiculous faith?
 
I for one have never met a righteous man or at least I have not been in their presence when they were saying one of those effective prayers. I have never experienced or observed effective prayer. And from what I observed and experienced no one I know has either. We talk a lot but our prayers are hollow. When attempts are made to discuss or think on the subject the response is to belittle the effort. Our classes are shallow and there is no learning. Hollow prayer is the product of shallow learning.

Thanks, John Jenkins
865-803-8179  cell
Gatlinburg, TN

Email: jrjenki@gmail.com
Website: http://www.greenbriersolutions.com 
Blog: http://littlepigeon.blogspot.com/

"And do not forget brethren, that we are drifting."
J.D. Tant



On Thu, Oct 7, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Grover W. Hastings <gwh1206@comcast.net> wrote:
John this is an excerpt from Max Lucado's book title above. Look carefully at what I've highlighted in red below. Are we known as a house of prayer? This bothers me considerably.

Col 4:2
Pray First, Pray Most
One of our Brazilian church leaders taught me something about earnest prayer. He met Christ during a yearlong stay in a drug-rehab center. His therapy included three one-hour sessions of prayer a day. Patients weren't required to pray, but they were required to attend the prayer meeting. Dozens of recovering drug addicts spent sixty uninterrupted minutes on their knees.
I expressed amazement and confessed that my prayers were short and formal. He invited (dared?) me to meet him for prayer. I did the next day. We knelt on the concrete floor of our small church auditorium and began to talk to God. Change that. I talked; he cried, wailed, begged, cajoled, and pleaded. He pounded his fists on the floor, shook a fist toward heaven, confessed, and reconfessed every sin. He recited every promise in the Bible as if God needed a reminder. He prayed like Moses.
When God determined to destroy the Israelites for their golden calf stunt, "Moses begged the Lord his God and said, 'Lord, don't let your anger destroy your people, whom you brought out of Egypt with your great power and strength. Don't let the people of Egypt say, "The Lord brought the Israelites out of Egypt for an evil purpose." . . . Remember the men who served you—Abraham, Isaac, and Israel. You promised with an oath to them'" (Ex. 32:11–13 NCV).
Moses on Mount Sinai is not calm and quiet, with folded hands and a serene expression. He's on his face one minute, in God's the next. He's on his knees, pointing his finger, lifting his hands. Shedding tears. Shredding his cloak. Wrestling like Jacob at Jabbok for the lives of his people. And God heard him! "So the Lord changed his mind and did not destroy the people as he had said he might" (v.14 NCV).
Our passionate prayers move the heart of God. "The effective, fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much" (James 5:16). Prayer does not change God's nature; who he is will never be altered. Prayer does, however, impact the flow of history. God has wired his world for power, but he calls on us to flip the switch.
Most of us struggle with prayer. We forget to pray, and when we remember, we hurry through prayers with hollow words. Our minds drift; our thoughts scatter like a covey of quail. Why is this? Prayer requires minimal effort. No location is prescribed. No particular clothing is required. No title or office is stipulated. Yet you'd think we were wrestling a greased pig.
Speaking of pigs, Satan seeks to interrupt our prayers. Our battle with prayer is not entirely our fault. The devil knows the stories; he witnessed the angel in Peter's cell and the revival in Jerusalem. He knows what happens when we pray. "Our weapons have power from God that can destroy the enemy's strong places" (2 Cor. 10:4 NCV).
Satan is not troubled when Max writes books or prepares sermons, but his knobby knees tremble when Max prays. Satan does not stutter or stumble when you walk through church doors or attend committee meetings. Demons aren't flustered when you read this book. But the walls of hell shake when one person with an honest heart and faithful confession says, "Oh, God, how great thou art."
Satan keeps you and me from prayer. He tries to position himself between us and God. But he scampers like a spooked dog when we move forward. So let's do.
Let's pray, first. Traveling to help the hungry? Be sure to bathe your mission in prayer. Working to disentangle the knots of injustice? Pray. Weary with a world of racism and division? So is God. And he would love to talk to you about it.
Let's pray, most. Did God call us to preach without ceasing? Or teach without ceasing? Or have committee meetings without ceasing? Or sing without ceasing? No, but he did call us to "pray without ceasing" (1 Thess. 5:17).
Did Jesus declare: My house shall be called a house of study? Fellowship? Music? A house of exposition? A house of activities? No, but he did say, "My house will be called a house of prayer" (Mark 11:17 NIV).
No other spiritual activity is guaranteed such results. "When two of you get together on anything at all on earth and make a prayer of it, my Father in heaven goes into action" (Matt. 18:19 MSG). He is moved by the humble, prayerful heart.
Devote yourselves to prayer with an alert mind and a thankful heart. Pray for us, too, that God will give us many opportunities to speak about his mysterious plan concerning Christ.
(Colossians 4:2–3 NLT)
God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob, you created all that exists, and you keep it running through your infinite wisdom and boundless power. Yet you invite me to come to you in prayer, boldly and with the expectation that you will hear me and answer me. Teach me, Lord, to take full advantage of this amazing 
, especially in regard to reaching others with your love. Give me a heart for those who have yet to experience the fullness of your grace, and prompt me to pray for them and for their welfare, both in this world and in eternity. Lord, bring me to the front lines of this battle. In Jesus' name I pray, amen.
*******************************







Grover W. Hastings

In God We Trust
"If we ever forget that we are one nation under God, then we will be a nation gone under."  President Ronald Reagan
 




Speaking of Security

At our last mens business meeting the subject was securing the building. We have an alarm system but do not have it on. We will turn it on soon. I don't think we need one. The catholics have had open buildings for centuries and anyone can go in and pray or or genuflect or whatever. While we lock our building to keep the derelicts out. One fellow told me the other night that where he used to go the building was broken into and their food supply for the poor was pretty much ransacked. I asked him what the problem was. Their congregation had participated in a benevolent act without having to participate. Apparently we are concerned someone will steal our sound system. I told them no problem if they do we can get a better one.
 
ON television several years ago some prognosticator was positive looking down the road 5 years of what Iran would do if Israel did such and such . But when asked what Iran was going to do tomorrow in response to a certain act by Israel today he was not sure.   It appears the more verifiable the less his confidence and when the act is less verifiable his confidence increased.
 
Same with prayer. Does it say anything about a people's convictions when they claim prayer works and have absolute confidence God will heal their sick but are not that confident about him protecting the congregation's property?
 
How about the confidence shown by others who withhold medical treatment because their faith in God's healing is so great. Why do you suppose we think they are loony for having such a ridiculous faith?
 

Thanks, John Jenkins
865-803-8179  cell
Gatlinburg, TN

Email: jrjenki@gmail.com
Website: http://www.greenbriersolutions.com 
Blog: http://littlepigeon.blogspot.com/

"And do not forget brethren, that we are drifting."
J.D. Tant